Melroch @ Random

31 October, 2009

Rhodrese will still be Rhodrese!

Filed under: Conlanging — Tags: , , — melroch @ 18:23

The other day there was an exchange on the Conlang mailing list about hidden references to Tolkien in people’s conlangs.

Garth Wallace wrote:

Daniel Bowman wrote: » For example, Samadurian actually comes » from mangling “cellar door”, > Is that a hidden reference to Tolkien? ;-)

Yes indeed! That’s the only relation, though; the milieu it’s intended for is very un-Tolkeinesque.

To which I replied:

mercurii dies ‘Wednesday’ used to be melcordí in , which of course was an oblique reference to Tolkien (and one which Tolkien would perhaps not have liked very much!). In the current version of the lang the form is meocordí, and thus not that obvious anymore, if you aren’t aware of the change of non-prevocalic /l/ to /w/.

Ah, creative help! The mention of **melcordí gave me a flash of inspiration today how to explain that Rhodanu becomes Rhuodre rather than **Rhuorn or **Rhuorre and Rhodanense > rhodray rather than **rhornay or **rhorray, and so be able to keep the current name of the language without introducing an exception or inconsistencies or implausibilities in the historical .

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8 April, 2009

The Rhodrese indefinite article

Filed under: Conlanging — Tags: , — melroch @ 18:10

On Conlang Herrig Thaillí (Henrik Theilling) wrote in response to me:

I’m ATM in woes WRT the indefinite article. I feel that the changes I’ve made to the feminine indefinite and plural definite forms call for a change in the plural indefinite as well. Consider the following patterns:

masc. sing. fem. sing. plur.
_#C _#V _#C _#V _#C _#V
def. el el la l’ li gl’
indef. un un na n’ eun eun

OR

masc. sing. fem. sing. plur.
_#C _#V _#C _#V _#C _#V
def. el el la l’ li gl’
indef. un un na n’ ni gn’

Is the latter preferable or am I over-regularizing?

NB eun would still mean ‘some, a few’, while aocú means ‘some, any’ and naocú means ‘not any, none’.

My gut feeling for Rhodese is that the first alternative is more like it. It has that nice vowel change. And the system should not be made too regular I think.

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